March 25, 2008
Dear Dr. Amy
Posted by independentchildbirth under birth, childbirth education, health, homebirth, midwifery | Tags: BMJ homebirth, Dr. Amy, Johnson & Daviss, safe birth, VBAC |Hi Dr. Amy ~I’m curious as to what really is going on that has you so afraid of allowing women to have the birth of their choice. No matter what I, as a safe birth advocate and you as a safe birth advocate ~ yes, we both want birth to be safe ~ believe is actually the safest, the fact is that in America we were meant to have our rights to do what we choose to do with our bodies, ourselves, protected.
Pregnancy is simply one piece of healthcare and care involves nothing less than what is given to all others in all other health care fields regardless of gravity of the situation. I want to know why you feel a need to TELL women not to birth at home. I don’t TELL women not to birth in hospitals. I do what they ask of me: share what I know, point them to resources and let them choose for themselves.
Women who have been my birth clients have chosen from among hospital with OBs, hospital with MW/OB, free standing birth center with MW, homebirth with CPMs and Traditional Birth Attendants, homebirth with CNMs and unassisted childbirth. They made their own choices and collectively they represent a c/s rate right around 10% (the WHO guideline recommendations) and of the almost 90% vaginal birth rate a little over 80% of those were without drugs ~ pain medication ~ and only a few with augmentation.
The reasons for cesareans were breech and less than textbook labor patterns. I don’t believe everyone is either at your end of the “birth is not safe” spectrum or at my end of the “birth is safe” spectrum” rather I believe the greater majority is somewhere in the middle. Certainly statistics show that less than 10% of births take place at home. I wonder that such a small group with healthy birth outcomes would take up so much of your time.
I wish that you devoted the same amount of energy to asking careproviders to give all the facts about every procedure and protecting the right to make our own health care decisions. What exactly is it about homebirth that is so dangerous? I know I can pinpoint the abuse of oxytocin, the abuse of medical privileges in prescribing drugs off label and the untold risks of cesareans, such as putting your future children’s lives at risk, for specifics about medicalized birth that is dangerous.
I’m not alone in that aspect. There are doctors out there who agree these practices bear scrutiny and are unethical. They question America’s maternity health care system in whole. I really am very interested to know exactly what aspects of homebirth are dangerous in your opinion and why you feel a need to use fear to quell an individual’s right to explore and educate themselves, invade a person’s home, privacy, body and right to choose for themselves. I notice that most of what is posted between you and others on the internet is lost in rants.
I don’t need the stats. I can find stats myself and I fully understand anyone can interpret stats however they’d like. I’m interested in hearing what YOU KNOW about birth, your experience with birth.
As a matter of interest, in my case it wasn’t homebirth advocates who advised me to VBAC spontaneously, without medications and especially with my premature son. My skilled homebirth midwives advised me to birth in a hospital with the underlying medical conditions I had. It wasn’t the homebirth advocates that encouraged me to VBAC telling me I could do it and I would be fine. It was two different obstetricians in two different hospitals. It was obstetricians who weren’t just trained in VBAC and complications of birth, they were SKILLED.
March 26, 2008 at 4:00 am
Bravo.
I have so much baggage from that woman… haven’t been by her site in a long time, as it just adds fuel to her popularity… and gets me riled up too.
Well said.
Bravo.
March 26, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I just can’t even go to Amy’s site anymore. I shudder when I imagine having her as my care provider. Imagine her bedside manner!
March 26, 2008 at 7:43 pm
The homebirth rate around the country averages 1%, not “less than 10%” (even though that is technically less than 10%!).
I think that it is imperative of midwives to understand where Amy is coming from in order to be eloquent in arguing against her dogma, so will read occasionally, but also take what she says with a salt lick. I don’t think it’s helpful for clients/pregnant women to read, but plenty do and end up writing those of us who are on the other side of the fence to gain some balance in their knowledge. I’m sure, sure, sure plenty don’t ever hear another point of view, though, and that’s sad.
You know how strongly some of us feel about religion or abortion or politics or (pick your topic)? How we shake our head in disbelief that everyone doesn’t see… doesn’t SEE… the absolute truth we see? How could they not with all the information everyone has about the topic?! Are they nuts?
THAT is how Amy is as vociferous as she is. She absolutely believes she is right and can’t fathom how anyone has any other idea other than hers… the information is RIGHT THERE to see, isn’t it?
Most of us who read and write here and other natural birth advocating blogs and articles are more balanced in our thinking… we can easily see both sides of the home/hospital issue. It’s our level heads that women depend on. I don’t believe I am rabidly on either side of that fence, either; many advocates are and I think it doesn’t do “the cause” a whole lot of good when they/we are. Balance in this topic is important if we want to be heard.
Don’t you think?
March 27, 2008 at 1:24 pm
I agree with Navelgazing midwife that the problem with Dr. Amy is that she is just one-sided. It’s not the fact that she is pro-hospital that is the problem, it is that she is so ANTI midwife and homebirth. When coming to my website, you’ll find a natural bias and slant, but you won’t find doctor bashing. I have to hold my tongue a lot when ladies ask me questions on my blog like, “why would my doctor strip my membranes without asking? and why does my doctor want to induce me at 39 weeks when nothing is wrong?” As a childbirth educator and certified doula, I would love to see a shift towards more homebirth and natural birth. I just try to educate women and sit back and watch them make their own choices, offering my opinion when asked. I am a homebirther, but I know that home is not the right place for all women to give birth and I’m thankful for some of the technology when it becomes necessary for some women.
March 27, 2008 at 2:59 pm
I agree with Navelgazing Midwife as well that Dr. Amy believes so deeply in her position that she is not able to see any other side of the argument.
I also believe that she is a voice for a money making industry. Homebirth is a direct threat to the birthing business’s bottom line. I would imagine that she feels threatened (and insulted) that women would choose an option that leaves her out in the cold.
March 27, 2008 at 8:39 pm
I have never gone to her site… don’t need the agravation. But I agree with all you say!
March 27, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Hello Navelgazing Midwife ~
I was hoping the “stat” would catch a few eyes and minds to cause exploration into just how many midwives are there? Just how many homebirths are there? Just how many people are birthing unattended? Unassisted (for certainly a midwife can be at a birth but be so unobstrusive as to have you forget she’s there)?
In my humble observation we are once again being herded back to hospitals, to use the cattle drive analogy. There is this idea that there are more midwives becoming available therefore we birth advocates are now being very extreme because having midwives in hospitals isn’t enough to satisfy us.
What the public does not realize is that these particular midwives are under fire to conform to the medical model which will leave women and birth right where we are today, where we have been for decades: dehumanized birth. It appears to me that obstetricians search for midwives as a marketing strategy to gain more unsuspecting clientele.
That is what I believe is the one argument Dr. Amy will never win. Birth her way leaves no room for the heart. How can one argue humanization? Statistics cannot address the humanity of birth. I ask again, I want to hear, from her, what she KNOWS about birth. Her birth experience.
April 9, 2008 at 11:35 pm
and still waiting….wonder if we’ll ever hear what’s behind her fear of birth?